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Stock Fuel Rails, why they don’t keep up

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Why is that? What you up too??
Tapped took 6 weeks to get my upgraded fuel hat back to me. Said it would take 2 weeks when I sent it in. Car sat, and now my Arc Angel lithium ion battery is 11.38V and the car won't even power up. Can't jump start LION so now I gotta get a charger. This has never been a problem for me since I drive the car at least once a week.

To add insult to injury, they left out the lead that goes from the 3rd FPCM to the fuel hat, so now I gotta get a hold of them to send me that. Probably another week gone.
 


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My car won’t move for at least another month. Prolly 1.5 months. Y’all are spoiled down south
 


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Or maybe we're smart :unsure:

This is the longest I've ever gone without driving the car and it sucks.
 


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This is the longest I've ever gone without driving the car and it sucks.

See that funny white stuff on the ground?

That's isn't giant piles of cocaine...

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60° and sunny here today, woulda been a good day for testing.
 


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This is the longest I've ever gone without driving the car and it sucks.
here Speedy this will cheer you up:) hellcat is in the little garage behind trailer
 


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Tapped took 6 weeks to get my upgraded fuel hat back to me. Said it would take 2 weeks when I sent it in. Car sat, and now my Arc Angel lithium ion battery is 11.38V and the car won't even power up. Can't jump start LION so now I gotta get a charger. This has never been a problem for me since I drive the car at least once a week.

To add insult to injury, they left out the lead that goes from the 3rd FPCM to the fuel hat, so now I gotta get a hold of them to send me that. Probably another week gone.
I jump started mine. It sat for a couple weeks in the garage in cold weather. I jumped it drove the car to my dads and pulled it out. It was at 13.3 back in November. It is at 13.1 right now. I will put it in the challenger like I did last year year for a day and charge it back up
 


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These batteries don't like cold
 


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This is the longest I've ever gone without driving the car and it sucks.
I have parked my summer car every year and never have withdrawals. I drive it almost every day when it is out of storage. The jeep is no where as fun but i manage
 


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Started up today finally!!! No more tick tick tick on cold start now, damn header leak!! Roads would have been for a test hit but ran out of time. Backed it out of the garage, dumped the 3 1/2 gallons of straight distilled in the coolant system, pushed it back in the garage, will fill it with coolant in the morning and maybe take it out for a hit.
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I'm confused, why do you have an IHI on there, didn't you dump that???
 


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Tapped took 6 weeks to get my upgraded fuel hat back to me. Said it would take 2 weeks when I sent it in. Car sat, and now my Arc Angel lithium ion battery is 11.38V and the car won't even power up. Can't jump start LION so now I gotta get a charger. This has never been a problem for me since I drive the car at least once a week.

To add insult to injury, they left out the lead that goes from the 3rd FPCM to the fuel hat, so now I gotta get a hold of them to send me that. Probably another week gone.
Oof.

Considering how old mine is (Injected Engineering circa 2019) I should probably start from scratch anyways. I think I only have the double hanger but it's the same fore hat and 2 FPCM's but wasn't plug & play at the time.

I'll have to look at how OST tapped into everything. Going from 2 to 3 at this point is much labor & cost.
 


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He's testing the Satera decoupler pulley.

What cai is that? Looks like a good gasket on there.
 


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I'm confused, why do you have an IHI on there, didn't you dump that???
No, that my ported 2.4, I just redid it with new bearings etc and testing the Satera Rings of Hell clutched pulley to see if it helps with the over rev between 3rd and 4th I’ve been seeing with locked up Litens pulleys and the solid pulley on the Whipple. This Satera pulley clutches so free on shut down the blower whirls for 3-4 seconds after the engine is off, sounds neat hearing it whirl! Satera is supposed to be making a clutched pulley for the Whipple soon but I may be selling my 3.0 Whipple while waiting since it’s still brand new unused from warranty replacement and stepping up to a 3.8. We’ll see how a test hit goes tomorrow hopefully. May dyno the 2.4 ported heads combo also and see what it picked up from the porting since I have data from 2 different dyno’s on the 2.4 with a 2.72 which both netted right at 945-950 wheel.

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No, that my ported 2.4, I just redid it with new bearings etc and testing the Satera Rings of Hell clutched pulley to see if it helps with the over rev between 3rd and 4th I’ve been seeing with locked up Litens pulleys and the solid pulley on the Whipple. This Satera pulley clutches so free on shut down the blower whirls for 3-4 seconds after the engine is off, sounds neat hearing it whirl! Satera is supposed to be making a clutched pulley for the Whipple soon but I may be selling my 3.0 Whipple while waiting since it’s still brand new unused from warranty replacement and stepping up to a 3.8. We’ll see how a test hit goes tomorrow hopefully. May dyno the 2.4 ported heads combo also and see what it picked up from the porting since I have data from 2 different dyno’s on the 2.4 with a 2.72 which both netted right at 945-950 wheel.

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Looks like 6600 RPM was the sweet spot on that setup. What picked up the 50hp/tq in the middle on that?
 


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He's testing the Satera decoupler pulley.

What cai is that? Looks like a good gasket on there.
That’s my Whipple CIA, need a longer coupler to get the filter into the box all the way and the box to inlet tube gasket on it but it will work for now as is
 


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Oof.

Considering how old mine is (Injected Engineering circa 2019) I should probably start from scratch anyways. I think I only have the double hanger but it's the same fore hat and 2 FPCM's but wasn't plug & play at the time.

I'll have to look at how OST tapped into everything. Going from 2 to 3 at this point is much labor & cost.
Was about $500 to go to the 3rd pump on mine. The wiring is actually super simple. Something you could do yourself if your handy, but I sent mine off to Tapped to keep from having to source the pins and FPCM connectors.
 


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Looks like 6600 RPM was the sweet spot on that setup. What picked up the 50hp/tq in the middle on that?
Not spinning on the dyno lol, first pass cleaned the tires off
 




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