Octanium Unleaded the real deal or stick with 100 octane fuel?

[The Max]

My Charger Hellcat is still stock, was wondering if this would benefit the engine for maximum power, to eliminate knock retard, for racing or just fooling around especially when temperatures are hot like the summertime?

 

[MaxCarnage]

From my understanding and what others have told me (majority of), ditch the octane adders and just put in a few gallons of unleaded race fuel for a safety net while racing.

 

[Maxboost]

I use nothing but vp octainum, it works and doesn’t trip my light like the boostane did. I use it as a buffer on 93 octane in the redeye and GT500. The GT500 has variable timing and gets all 18 degrees when vp is used with 93. That car gets a half of a can per full tank or 13 gallons of 93.

Is it a replacement for race gas I say no but it’s just a bit of insurance for bad gas. All my 93 runs stock and tuned have had vp in the tank.

 

[16GoManGoHC2]

I swear by Octanium Unleaded, I used Torco in the past on other cars it leaves lots of orange soot, Boostane ehh, Octanium? The shit works period. Cut my Knick sensor volts in half and I’m running 16.5 to 17.5+ psi of boost in good air on Sunoco 93 and put down almost 860 wheel. Data don’t lie

 

[BULL]

My Charger Hellcat is still stock, was wondering if this would benefit the engine for maximum power, to eliminate knock retard, for racing or just fooling around especially when temperatures are hot like the summertime?

I can't speak for additives, but I can say that even at my altitude (high altitude requires less octane), I see STK on premium pump.

With 50/50 pump/race it is reduced to nil.

So whether it's a blend, or an additive, reducing STK is beneficial.

.02

 

[Hickster]

My story again and again. Got caught with my pance down. Didn't know till some one showed me a news paper clipping from Michigan concerning. A gas station down the street from the local drag strip. This station was as close as you can get to the strip. I was using 110 from there, 1/2 tank and 93 from the down the street BP station. it was working great. The smell from the exhaust was awsome and performance was un real. Then after 4 to 5 tanks the computer starting throwing codes. Looked up the codes an it let me know what was happening and not good. Between 2 dealerships and an independent shop it boiled down to the gas after 8 months. 4 fuel rails replacements, 4 catalystic converters, 4 exhaust gasketic replacements, 3 each fuel pumps replacements, and a bunch of techs time and nutts and bolts and other stuff. FCA sent their rep down 3 different times and great time for some one from NJ to come to the beach and have grouper sammies. 6 months in the shop with my offering info and his knowledge the gas was the obvious go to. After pressing the 3rd shift kid to give me the info at 6: 30 am. The 110 unleaded gas was 110 leaded gas at $8.88 a gallon,, leadeded. Kid gave it up, the news paper article from Michigan, the codes the car was throwing out, the FCA rep, great guy and the dealership, Sun Coast from Seminole, Fl and Dayton Andrews St Pete, fl did very well on the diagnostics on the codes. Which read the 412 pages and have 2 months you can figure it out, but the FCA rep took care of the whole ticket with 700 miles on the car they could have flipped me off. Alot of time and parts gone back to the warranty. Wiffy was getting pissed. $86,000 car in the shop all the time not to say about the lndependent hot rod shop. Start throwing around law suit and wifiy goes nutts. She didn't even ride in the H/C but did in the 2 vettes or the huge 1.8 liter Nissian at 30 mpg against 9.2 but what a drive. But watch out for the 110 octane at $8.88 a gallon. Was at the beach today. Short shorts and still tube tops. Watch out fer the 110.

 

[DGatzby]

I use 93 plus Octanium to keep the power plant happy on the road courses, and it does its work well. I used Turco before but did not like the orange residue. The drag racers here really know their stuff and recommended the VP product. That was good enough for me since each day on the track means several tanks of gas. Before I used the additives, EVEN on the labeled 93 octane, I have got misfire codes running the screaming hell out of a Hellcat for 15-20 minutes at a time.

 

[YMMV]

No alternative for race fuel.

With that being said I use the VP Octanium as well. I only add this to the 93 I use if I am seeing something I don't like on my logs or if I am forced to stop at a gas station I am unfamiliar with (I use Shell, BP, Sunoco). Its also a lot easier to carry a can of VP than a 5 gallon jug/container.

 

[Demoniccat]

I can't speak for additives, but I can say that even at my altitude (high altitude requires less octane), I see STK on premium pump.

With 50/50 pump/race it is reduced to nil.

So whether it's a blend, or an additive, reducing STK is beneficial.

.02

Your right Bull any STK is power left on the table. Not to mention
STK left unchecked repeatedly probably is like the culmination of LTK
over the life of engine, boy that’s almost a oxymoron no matter how you word it.

 

[moparjim]

I use VP Octanium Unleaded.
This spring I finally got to figure out data logging.
Running 94 pump I get 2-3 degrees of STK at times. A bottle of VP to 11 gal of 94 and no STK at all.
Even hot lapping the car on a warm day only produced a flash of .5 STK after a shift. I only saw it in the logs in slow motion. LOL
At $20-25 a bottle vs $220 for 5gal of ms109 for me it works.
I don't have the budget some have.

 

[The Max]

Thanks for the responses and it looks like I will be purchasing VP Octanium Unleaded in the near future and get out there and kick some ass!

 

[EarlW]

Looks like Octanium uses MMT as a lead substitute, like Boostane does. MMT is what leaves the orange residue behind after the combustion process. MMT, like lead before it, resists detonation and raises octane level...

Section 3.1 shows MMT

https://www.marcnelsonoil.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/VP-Octanium.pdf

 

[16GoManGoHC2]

It does leave some orange residue but nothing like Torco leaves and half as much as a Boostane. I pulled my pipes after 10 or so tanks of it to see, plugs looked decent as well

 

[YMMV]

Just a heads up and also to help my fellow "meow meow" owners.

Use code VPFATHER on summit racing if youre buying any VP products for 20% off. Its good till June 21st. No I get no kick backs. Its was a code I got from VP Racing fuels directly.

You're WHALECUM.

 

[MaxCarnage]

Does anyone have an answer to if that orange residue is harmful to anything like the plugs? MS109 is $90 a pail for me, which isn't terrible, but like others I'm not rich either, lol.

 

[DGatzby]

Blowing through a few tanks in one day at high RPMs does this. Goes away after, only happens on track days.

 

[16GoManGoHC2]

I’d rather that tinge of orange then black soot any day!!
Never seen it that far back though lol, you must have really been on it!!

 

[DGatzby]

Burning about a gallon every 4.3 miles. Laps (4.1 miles) in 2:45-2:50 seconds. They let us run six 15 minute sessions. The app shows average speeds 85-90. At BIR Monday it will be 95+ mph avg speeds, 1:5x laps (3.1 miles). That mother has a rather fast part to it, and it allows us to air out the Hellcats. What a blast!

 

[16GoManGoHC2]

Sounds like FUN!! Enjoy, be safe, and good luck!!

 

[coolblue]

Anybody run into warranty problems when the dealership saw the orange residue? Or is that a dealer by dealer call?